olderndirt

Underwhelming is a word I use for XP12 - be interesting to have been a 'fly on the wall' during the meeting which decided the release. Having been a pilot for most of my life, I realize the sim is simply close but no cigar but I do really enjoy making screenshots. With XP11 the rendering was good enough to only require simple edits to make it more presentable - now, with '12' the edits are bordering on surgical to overcome the rendering glitches. Don't get me wrong, I'll never go with MSFS but I'd sure like Laminar to get a handle on this and maybe talk to the customers a bit more.

With the provided Ortho tile, this is a fine scenery. Worked at PAJN tower in the late sixties and acquired several pilot ratings there. The surrounding area is extremely accurate. Here's a shot.

'Networking - watching other people fly'? After forty odd years of flying (COMASELSMELINSTCFI), I've yet to find myself doing too good a job in XP and when are they going to put counterbalance elevators on the Supercub? - could be a deal breaker.

Keep their fingers to the fire - bought this and found it not bad. The cockpit looks a bit off - the panel just doesn't look real but then so few of them really do.

Interesting - same price as XP12. Is it compatible?

Sounds like a lot of plane or 32 bucks. I'm sure, as they finesse the product, that price will be a memory. That it's available for XP11 along with the modest price, has convinced me to buy.

Since it appears that XP12 "upgrades" are a fairly effortless source of developer revenue (excepting Thranda), buyers are a little bashful about shelling out when they already have the XP11 version. Until 'new' and different models appear to attract sales, these cosmetically enhanced for full price efforts won't draw much attention.

A nicely balanced review. Personally, it all hinges on how much/many of my XP11 investments will be useable in the new version. I avoid default scenery as much as possible so what they've improved is relatively unimportant and I tend to create my own ambiance with shader plugins so will continue to wait and watch.

Am I misunderstanding or is there truly no directional control with rudder pedals. Airplanes don't have twist grips for that. Mr Maule took the Piper Pacer idea to new heights mostly by adding horsepower. Years ago I flew an M3 with a 220 Franklin and it was quick. They've added lots of mods since but, like the Huskey, too heavy to be a real bush plane.

Thranda's "NoJoe" likes to post teaser shots prior to release and the 'Stationair' thread ran to about eleven pages before enthusiasts certified it would be a C206. Developer/User back and forth like this is how we all stay happy.

So now it begins. The big question for me is how much of my XP11 aircraft, scenery (including Orthos) and plugins will be transferable to this version.

Back in the day, I flew a '235' before it become a 'Charger' and 80/87 was still available. Best of the Cherokees.

Just bought this one and, once again, Mr X6 is pure magic.

Top form on this one. SFD sets a very high bar for airport sceneries - his freeware is better than a lot of payware.

Very impressive pricewise and otherwise. One of your shots displays what could be the wet surface effect in the forthcoming XP12.

Love the closing line '............next month' - you do mean 2022 don't you? 🙂.

As you say, XP11 is running well but, once my appetite was whetted with some of Laminar's new and improved features for XP12, my little anticipation clock started the mental countdown. Lack of status information and release date has tended to curb my enthusiasm but, rest assured, never MSFS.

August first and not a shred of evidence they still exist.

Just a thought. If ever an outfit was "hoist on its own petard" (apologies to Wm Shakespeare), it's Laminar. As Asobo continues to muddy their waters with 'updates', Austin and the gang are welded to their dime. Strike while the iron is hot.

Back in the day, an outfit I moonlighted for had a couple of these - big engine using the cheapest gas (80/87). Hauled many customers over the Juneau glaciers - in my experience, pound for pound, the best Cherokee of them all. Might've been fun gear up.

Don't know about you gents but the portability of current XP11 aircraft to XP12 is going to be a potential make or break for me - can't afford to buy them again.

I received an email for the flash sale(s) and took advantage - see they've become partners in the MSFS group which could be the end of their XP endeavors.

After reading your report versus the "manual", one wonders if 'they' realize how much this thing does. Now that you've provided this excellent 'how, what, when, and where', I feel obligated to give it a shot. Bottom line - how handy is it after all the 'to and froing' required to get it going?

Just bought this and am mystified. The manual seems to be written for mindreaders and what I've done so far is delete it and go back to the XP camera. I've queried Aerosoft support but nothing yet so, if you have any insights such as "what, if anything, to do in XP keyboard settings" "the little four item menu (interior/exterior/world/cinema) how's that supposed to go? Any insights would be appreciated.

Troubling to reply during these terrible times is admirable and my best wishes for your country's success.